“Medical travel options fit best for employers in a Total Health Management framework”. An Exclusive Interview with Sander Domaszewicz

Alexander “Sander” Domaszewicz is a Principal and Senior Consultant housed in the Mercer Health & Benefits Services (Mercer) Newport Beach, California office. He is Mercer’s National Practice Leader for Consumerism and leads Engagement efforts for the Total Health Management group, specializing in emerging benefits and ways to encourage groups to become involved and informed around health care cost and quality. Areas of focus include health care strategy, consumer directed health care, health and benefits decision support tools, web health resources, HR portals and online benefits.
The current administration is pushing for a more nationalized health care program. How do you think this policy agenda might impact employers generally? And specifically, how will consumer directed plans like Health Savings Accounts and Health Reimbursement Accounts be affected?
Sander: It is likely that employers are going to have some kind of encouragement to provide coverage. Those that are not currently providing coverage might face penalties similar to those in
Many employers have been investing in programs to achieve longer-term gains in the health of their employees. Do you think that any shift away from our employer-based health system might adversely impact the gains being made by employers to improve worker health status?
Sander: I think if you look around at the rest of the world where there is often a lot of government control and ownership of core medical care, employers are still very interested in a healthy, productive workforce. They are looking to make sure there is visibility around the importance of health and that health-related absence issues are addressed. I don’t think necessarily we will necessarily lose the health gains we’ve made, but we may refocus our direction to better line up with the rest of the world, becoming more holistic as opposed to being so focused on big ticket medical expenses. Today, that’s still be the focus, but employers could probably benefit by spending more time thinking about mental health, workers compensation and other aligned areas of total health management to improve the worker health status.
Let me shift the discussion to international medical travel. Over the last few years there has been significant discussion and activity about international medical travel as a cost saving opportunity for employers. How much interest are you seeing among Mercer clients for including international providers in current provider networks?
Sander: I think there is a lot of interest in
any solution that has the promise to help control health care costs and make
the out of pocket costs shifting less burdensome to employees. The majority of
interest around International medical travel seems to have been focused on
learning of the possibilities rather than a willingness to adopt in the near
term. But that learning always has to be
a predecessor to adoption – there is value in getting folks interested in
talking about a topic and discussing pros and cons. More employers are thinking
about the concept, and some have had us run the numbers or map out a pilot
scenario to see what implications it would have. We haven’t seen a lot of
adoption yet, but I think we are a few large employer adoptions away from this
becoming more mainstream.
Sander: Yes, there may be some employer
risk, but employers also must consider how to overcome employee’s concerns that
they may not be in a position to bring successful litigation or have a
favorable conclusion to their medical procedure they traveled to get. So from
these perspectives, I think employers often may be ok with encouraging folks to
consider international medical travel as long as it is completely voluntary to
the employee and their exposure is fairly modest. The types of offerings that are being developed
and refined for the future will need to put both the employer and the employee
at ease that any risks that they are taking are adequately covered with a “Plan
B” - can I be repatriated if there a medical emergency, will the cost of
redoing a procedure State-side be covered, or if things don’t work out
favorably is there a blanket policy liability that pays out some fixed amount
of dollars… I think all these options and more are going to be necessary
components for meaningful uptake of travel medicine and will go a long way to
make both employers and employees feel more comfortable about the solution when
venturing into a potentially less certain legal and clinical environment.
Sander: The programs we have looked at have
addressed some of the basics of continuity of care. There are protocols in place for transfer of
records, staying in country after surgery to receive recommended follow-up care
is often part of the package, as well as care transitions back to home
providers. You know the funny thing is
the continuity of care issues are probably as well or even better addressed in
international medical travel than when folks are travelling domestically for
care within the
Sander: This is a hard one for employers
because ROI is largely a matter of what the volume is and what are the specific
conditions being addressed and knowing the marginal cost advantage for overseas
care by procedure. A lot of assumptions
go into these, so ranges of opportunities are probably the best we can get at
right now. Employers who want to move
down this path want to see that there is meaningful opportunity for ROI if they
decide to go through the effort of putting a medical travel program in place, but
they are not going to fix all their financials hopes on an assumption that 30%
of all plan members who are eligible for hip replacements are going to choose
an international option. There is still a
lot of work to be done around how to make this a desirable option, and that
type of nuance won’t come immediately, it will have to be developed over
time. There aren’t many who have had
success at marketing to encourage uptake by the participants. This is still a work in progress in the world
of well-insured participants.
Sander: To the extent the concept makes
sense financially and clinically, there could be robust uptake over time. But I think a lot of it is going to depend on
the early reports of success or lack of success of programs to achieve
employer’s goals. There have to be early employer trailblazers, and to the
extent that we have half a dozen large, successful employer plan sponsors using
international medical travel, widespread adoption could quickly follow. But if most of the early adopters have
struggling programs 3 to 4 years into their efforts, without much uptake or
financial return, adoption could be a very long, generational process.
Sander: With employers we’re working with on
medical travel, we’re trying to integrate the program with other health
initiatives into what we call a Total Health Management framework. Providing choices around where to get
significant surgery fits much better into an environment where it’s not just a
one-off initiative, and you’re already encouraging people to think about their
health and getting maximum value when they seek health services. One of the
biggest challenges has been getting large, national insurers to be willing to
coordinate and support the program when it’s being launched with smaller
emerging medical travel vendors. Linking
with existing pre-surgery notification processes and case management would be
of great value. Some medical third party
administrators have welcomed the expertise of the new companies in this space,
but many of the largest insurers have thrown up barriers or forced non-integrated
and non-coordinated programs. On the
incentives front, I think the models need to be built around the employee’s
safety, both in financial and quality terms. They need to be as user friendly
as possible, and it seems likely that large financial incentives are going to
be a requirement in successful programs, at least to start. I know a couple of models that have included
HSA or HRA funding, say $5,000, that
would be deposited into some one’s account to cover health expenses. An a number of programs will reduce or
eliminate the out of pocket expenses and cost sharing for a procedure done
using medical travel. And covering basic
added expenses like travel costs and the costs of bringing a companion are
critical to the model. I think there
needs to be a direct line of sight, if I am willing to do something out of the
ordinary and use this new program, what’s in it for me as a patient? I would recommend employers adjust expenses
in the cost modeling and apply a good percentage of any potential savings to
initially getting folks to try the program.
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Great article. I know that Companion Global Healthcare is one of the leaders in Medical Travel and they are one of the few that are affiliated with a major insurer (BCBS of SC). www.companionglobalhealthcare.com is their website. They work with large, self-funded companies.
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